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by nimzo256
August 4th, 2012, 9:57 am
Forum: Religion
Topic: Biblical fallacies and contradictions
Replies: 108
Views: 10789

Re: Biblical fallacies and contradictions

In which case, it isn't an argument against the existence of God either. You can't have it both ways: a piece of logic is either valid or it isn't, and to assert that it is valid in some cases but not in others is just blatant special pleading. I'm not trying to have anything both ways. I am applyi...
by nimzo256
August 4th, 2012, 8:24 am
Forum: Religion
Topic: Life after death?
Replies: 49
Views: 12647

Re: Life after death?

But the mind, like the body, changes with age, and as a consequence of life events, diseases, physical injuries, the effects of drugs, stress, dietary changes, sleep levels. In some cases, the mind, like the body, can be irreversibly damaged. People can lose memories, lose the ability to create mem...
by nimzo256
August 3rd, 2012, 1:18 pm
Forum: Religion
Topic: Biblical fallacies and contradictions
Replies: 108
Views: 10789

Re: Biblical fallacies and contradictions

Unless he spontaneously came into existence out of nothing (impossible), or he is eternal (impossible - everything has some form of origin), Ummm -- you do realise that this is an argument against the existence of the Universe, don't you? :D No it isn't an argument against the existence of the Univ...
by nimzo256
August 3rd, 2012, 9:43 am
Forum: Religion
Topic: Biblical fallacies and contradictions
Replies: 108
Views: 10789

Re: Biblical fallacies and contradictions

"In the beginning God..." . There's a contradiction after just four words! How could it have been the beginning if God was already there? How did God come to exist? Surely that was the beginning? Actually no. Unless he spontaneously came into existence out of nothing (impossible), or he is eternal (...
by nimzo256
July 31st, 2012, 3:18 pm
Forum: Religion
Topic: Life after death?
Replies: 49
Views: 12647

Re: Life after death?

My argument is based on a POSSIBILITY which we are nowhere near being able to discount. But surely that is a bit like denying, or otherwise, the existence of any of the gods - we cannot prove they do not exist thus we have the choice of believing in them or not - it can only be an abstract matter o...
by nimzo256
July 31st, 2012, 1:00 pm
Forum: Religion
Topic: Life after death?
Replies: 49
Views: 12647

Re: Life after death?

My mistake on her querying you then :redface: But I would be interested in your ideas on who - or what - qualifies for the possibility of life after death and what qualifications they require; sentience, intelligence, intellect or what? Is it a case that you have to be able to "embrace" the idea ph...
by nimzo256
July 31st, 2012, 12:01 pm
Forum: Religion
Topic: Life after death?
Replies: 49
Views: 12647

Re: Life after death?

I seem to remember this aspect of the argument from elsewhere, in another forum maybe. Is your concept of life after death only available to humans or to all sentient creatures? What is the "basic specification" of the nature of the mind required to achieve this in your model? Is it required that t...
by nimzo256
July 31st, 2012, 11:32 am
Forum: Religion
Topic: Life after death?
Replies: 49
Views: 12647

Re: Life after death?

Not talking for Sel but I took it that she had opened up another branch of the discussion, rather than questioning anything you have said so far, nizmo. Dave - I was responding to Sel's post in general but particularly to the part that was directly addressed to me - Namely - "Nimz: I read your post...
by nimzo256
July 31st, 2012, 12:29 am
Forum: Religion
Topic: Life after death?
Replies: 49
Views: 12647

Re: Life after death?

I haven't said anything about how humans may differ from animals in terms of the possibility of life after death. In fact I haven't mentioned animals at all anywhere in this thread either explicitely or implicitely (where did you think I had?). To put the record straight for you, I don't think it's ...
by nimzo256
July 30th, 2012, 8:31 am
Forum: Religion
Topic: Life after death?
Replies: 49
Views: 12647

Re: Life after death?

I work on living the one life I believe have with joy and compassion. And why should the possibility of life after death stop anyone living this life with joy and compassion? I understand why heavenly hereafters were invented: to keep the workers and women in their place. The poor and illiterate wh...
by nimzo256
July 30th, 2012, 8:17 am
Forum: Religion
Topic: Life after death?
Replies: 49
Views: 12647

Re: Life after death?

[This sounds suspiciously like religious dogma. I do not hope to live on after death. My brain is simply stuff and that stuff decays when I die. Gone. Kaput. Suggesting that an afterlife without god would have no quality is pushing for an acceptance that their must be a god or what would be the use...
by nimzo256
July 27th, 2012, 10:43 am
Forum: Education
Topic: Vote to Abolish collective worship
Replies: 10
Views: 3835

Re: Vote to Abolish collective worship

I've signed of course. However people here may be heartened to know that several schools just don't seem to make any attempt to try and comply with the law where collective worship is concerned. I'm a teacher. My school ignores the law. And even the report following our recent Ofsted inspection chos...
by nimzo256
July 27th, 2012, 9:02 am
Forum: Religion
Topic: Life after death?
Replies: 49
Views: 12647

Re: Life after death?

Animist you make a very good point by bringing in the question of what the QUALITY of any life after death without God might be. This of course can only be speculation. But again that shouldn't prevent humanists from hoping, if they so want to, for a life after death as good as, if not better than, ...
by nimzo256
July 26th, 2012, 11:44 pm
Forum: Religion
Topic: Life after death?
Replies: 49
Views: 12647

Re: Life after death?

Thank you for your welcomes and your comments. Generally people here seem to believe that a belief in the possibility of life after death is incompatible with humanism. I have to say that I don’t agree. I agree that belief in God is incompatible with humanism, but that to me is a very different ques...
by nimzo256
July 23rd, 2012, 10:14 am
Forum: Religion
Topic: Life after death?
Replies: 49
Views: 12647

Re: Life after death?

I've just realised that I've phrased my original question a bit carelessly. What I meant to ask is whether a belief in the POSSIBILTY of life after death is incompatible with being a humanist.
by nimzo256
July 23rd, 2012, 6:54 am
Forum: Religion
Topic: Life after death?
Replies: 49
Views: 12647

Life after death?

Different humanists believe different things. But there are certain things that no humanist can believe. Is a belief in life after death incompatible with being a humanist?