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by animist
August 10th, 2010, 8:10 pm
Forum: Religion
Topic: Street Pastors
Replies: 70
Views: 12793

Re: Street Pastors

It bothers me that evangelicals (and their Islamist counterparts) do often seem the most motivated to do things that probably do need to be done - apart from the Street Pastors, what about the way that Islamists seem to be effective in the much more serious situation of the Pakistan floods? And Hama...
by animist
August 10th, 2010, 7:52 pm
Forum: Religion
Topic: Amish
Replies: 23
Views: 2329

Re: Amish

probably not, but should they be allowed not to send their kids to school?
by animist
August 10th, 2010, 7:10 pm
Forum: Religion
Topic: atheism versus agnosticism
Replies: 180
Views: 14460

Re: atheism versus agnosticism

Your first point: that is what I was saying in my original post - atheism does not, or should not, claim to disprove God's existence. No, atheists can claim to disprove the existence of any creative deity if they like . But you can be an atheist if you think belief in the existence of god is unjust...
by animist
August 10th, 2010, 6:49 pm
Forum: Religion
Topic: a new argument against the cosmological proof for God?
Replies: 15
Views: 2013

Re: a new argument against the cosmological proof for God?

The first two sentences below are a reply to Lord Muck o'Gentry's last post -I cannot seem to get it loaded using the "Quote": But that is the whole nub of cosmo! Yes there would indeed be a contradiction - if we could not rely on God as the missing first cause. A few more thoughts - the fact that s...
by animist
August 10th, 2010, 9:05 am
Forum: Religion
Topic: atheism versus agnosticism
Replies: 180
Views: 14460

Re: atheism versus agnosticism

animist This Supremo-style God is, IMO, a self-contradiction and so inconceivable. But that does not mean that there could not be other "Gods": My emphasis. Yes it does! If there are gods of any description, who created them? (we did is the obvious answer) Most of the 3,000+ gods (invented by primi...
by animist
August 9th, 2010, 5:27 pm
Forum: Religion
Topic: atheism versus agnosticism
Replies: 180
Views: 14460

Re: atheism versus agnosticism

I am not sure why you think that "uncertainty" means a 50/50 balance; I certainly do not think there is an equal chance of God's existence. I'm glad to hear it. I suppose I made that assumption because if didn't have sufficient info to think otherwise, so I am pleased to be corrected. I was to a ce...
by animist
August 8th, 2010, 8:48 pm
Forum: Religion
Topic: a new argument against the cosmological proof for God?
Replies: 15
Views: 2013

Re: a new argument against the cosmological proof for God?

[...] since all events must have a cause, and since there cannot be an infinite regress of causes and effects, there must be a first cause of the universe [...] If all events here means the same as every event , and the universe is to be counted as an event, the first premiss of the argument is inc...
by animist
August 8th, 2010, 5:46 pm
Forum: Religion
Topic: atheism versus agnosticism
Replies: 180
Views: 14460

Re: atheism versus agnosticism

I agree wholeheartedly with TTD's beautifully succinct summary of the atheist/agnostic question. So, atheists need to be humble and accept that the only certainty about big G is uncertainty - hey, is that not agnosticism? It seems to me that you are interpreting the ultimate uncertainty as a 50/50 ...
by animist
August 8th, 2010, 8:50 am
Forum: Religion
Topic: atheism versus agnosticism
Replies: 180
Views: 14460

Re: atheism versus agnosticism

Realistic because noone can disprove the existence of God any more than they can disprove the existence of fairies at the bottom of their garden (certainly not of my garden anyway, which probably does contain fairies). This is often stated, but seldom defended. Dawkins says the same kind of thing, ...
by animist
August 5th, 2010, 7:24 pm
Forum: Religion
Topic: a new argument against the cosmological proof for God?
Replies: 15
Views: 2013

Re: a new argument against the cosmological proof for God?

thanks for all these good reasons to reject poor cosmo - let's send them to Bill Craig. Anyone ever think about what I called (boastfully) (my) NEW argument? I suppose it is actually a psychological quirk that we can conceive the future existing ad infinitum yet not so easily the past. Maybe it is b...
by animist
August 4th, 2010, 8:00 pm
Forum: Religion
Topic: atheism versus agnosticism
Replies: 180
Views: 14460

Re: atheism versus agnosticism

Of the replies so far, most do not seem that bothered about the distinction between the two As. Richard Dawkins did seem to be concerned, in effect attacking scientist agnostics who were willing to give religion its own sphere (the "NOMA" or "non-overlapping magisteria") and I understand his irritat...
by animist
August 4th, 2010, 8:14 am
Forum: Religion
Topic: a new argument against the cosmological proof for God?
Replies: 15
Views: 2013

a new argument against the cosmological proof for God?

The cosmological argument for the existence of God (cosmo). I think this does have some force: it says that since all events must have a cause, and since there cannot be an infinite regress of causes and effects, there must be a first cause of the universe which can only be God. Richard Dawkins simp...
by animist
August 3rd, 2010, 7:51 pm
Forum: Religion
Topic: atheism versus agnosticism
Replies: 180
Views: 14460

atheism versus agnosticism

I would like to get some opinions from both atheists and agnostics about why they think their own position differs from the other. I think there is no real difference - at least if atheists are realistic. Realistic because noone can disprove the existence of God any more than they can disprove the e...
by animist
August 2nd, 2010, 10:50 pm
Forum: Religion
Topic: objective morality
Replies: 15
Views: 1933

objective morality

I have seen quite a few videos in which Muslims like Adam Deen and Hamza Tzortzis claim that God is needed for what they call "objective morality". They do not define what they mean and they don't seem to have been pressed to do so. It has made me think what the phrase could mean. First, in a sense ...