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by clayto
July 26th, 2009, 5:03 pm
Forum: Humanist Vegetarian Group
Topic: Ethical eggs and milk?
Replies: 17
Views: 10631

Ethical eggs and milk?

Just about all vegans and many other ethical vegetarians consider both eggs and milk to be unacceptable because of the ('indirect') animal suffering involved in their production. The following are brief extracts from correspondence I have had with Compassion in World Farming: Quote: "It is possible ...
by clayto
July 26th, 2009, 4:25 pm
Forum: Humanist Vegetarian Group
Topic: Leather Furniture
Replies: 53
Views: 19195

Re: Leather Furniture

I thought this Forum had been a bit quiet for a while and hoped my post might liven it up. Success! While not wanting to be rude, a few of the responses seem to be plain silly. The main ethical objection to eating meat (and possibly milk --- see another thread) is concerned with inflicting unnecessa...
by clayto
July 24th, 2009, 4:19 pm
Forum: Humanist Vegetarian Group
Topic: Leather Furniture
Replies: 53
Views: 19195

Leather Furniture

What are other members' experiences of a problem I encounter from time to time (and recently), namely being faced with leather furniture in the home of a friend / family / waiting room / café, etc? As I do not wear or use leather in any circumstance it is inconsistent to sit on leather furniture and...
by clayto
May 7th, 2009, 7:42 pm
Forum: Humanist Vegetarian Group
Topic: Interesting Vegan Forum?
Replies: 2
Views: 4453

Re: Interesting Vegan Forum?

Questions

1. Are Oxymorons edible?

2. If so, are they acceptable to Vegetarians?

3. If so, from where can they be obtained?

4. If not, why?

5. Oh, bother, that's enough ...........

Chris
by clayto
May 6th, 2009, 9:45 am
Forum: Humanist Vegetarian Group
Topic: Interesting Vegan Forum?
Replies: 2
Views: 4453

Interesting Vegan Forum?

I have discovered a Vegan Forum which has content of particular relevance to us, in that it has a good section on Human Evolution with some interesting postings. So far, presumably for admin. reasons, I have not succeeded in registering --- but the postings can be read. The Forum is specifically for...
by clayto
May 1st, 2009, 8:06 pm
Forum: Positive Humanism
Topic: Humanists can help with loans
Replies: 10
Views: 1292

Re: Humanists can help with loans

Interesting.

Of course, an important aspect of trying to establish (eventually) whether microfinance (or anything) is beneficial or not, is to do it and then analyse the results. I would guess that these are 'early days' as far as that is concerned.

Chris
by clayto
May 1st, 2009, 4:27 pm
Forum: Culture Club
Topic: Dame Daphne du Maurier
Replies: 15
Views: 3230

Re: Dame Daphne du Maurier

There are plenty of du Maurier novels to choose from (eg. The Kings General or her first novel The Loving Spirit), plus loads of short stories (including Don't Look now, and The Birds) and then there are a couple of fairly recent sequels to Rebecca, by other authors.

Chris
by clayto
April 26th, 2009, 5:30 pm
Forum: Culture Club
Topic: Dame Daphne du Maurier
Replies: 15
Views: 3230

Re: Dame Daphne du Maurier

Hello coledavis ---- yes George dM was Daphne's grandfather (and avowed atheist), wrote several successful novels (eg. The Martian) as well as Trilby / Svengali (a later edition has the second title) and was illustrator for Punch. Daphne wrote a lot about him and her father Gerald, the actor manager...
by clayto
April 25th, 2009, 1:19 pm
Forum: Culture Club
Topic: Dame Daphne du Maurier
Replies: 15
Views: 3230

Re: Dame Daphne du Maurier

Hello Ken H and Lemonade Lily When I discovered Daphne's 'humanist leanings' I reported the fact on the Fowey du Maurier Forum a couple of years ago. It caused a bit of consternation (though nothing like the revelation of her lesbian, or as I would prefer, bi-sexual leanings --- to which it was comp...
by clayto
April 21st, 2009, 4:35 pm
Forum: Culture Club
Topic: Dame Daphne du Maurier
Replies: 15
Views: 3230

Re: Dame Daphne du Maurier

update My article 'The Mysterious Humanism Of Daphne du Maurier' which was featured on the Fowey Daphne du Maurier Festival website during 2007 is now available at http://www.devonhumanists.org.uk/book_reviews/daphne_du_maurier.php In addition a short article which is an extension of the first is pu...
by clayto
April 18th, 2009, 1:40 pm
Forum: Humanist Ethics & Morality
Topic: The Life You Can Save
Replies: 59
Views: 7286

Re: The Life You Can Save

Nick Here you go again, either deliberately or unintentionally misrepresenting what I say. Quote: "The fact that you appear to think that economics equates to the study of profit maximisation frankly astonishes me!" I did not say that nor did I 'appear' to say that (except perhaps to someone with so...
by clayto
April 17th, 2009, 10:28 am
Forum: Humanist Ethics & Morality
Topic: The Life You Can Save
Replies: 59
Views: 7286

Re: The Life You Can Save

Nick, you clearly have not understood a basic issue and debate about the nature of Economics as a field of study. Just to quote from one of my old (I have not taught for over ten years)textbooks used as an introduction for 'A' Level and undergraduate studies (A. Anderton 'Economics') "Some economist...
by clayto
April 16th, 2009, 5:43 pm
Forum: Humanist Ethics & Morality
Topic: The Life You Can Save
Replies: 59
Views: 7286

Re: The Life You Can Save

I just remind you of your assertion "Economics is value free" and all that went with it.

Chris
by clayto
April 16th, 2009, 3:03 pm
Forum: Humanist Ethics & Morality
Topic: The Life You Can Save
Replies: 59
Views: 7286

Re: The Life You Can Save

The 'you' and 'your' do not refer to you, which surely must be clear, as what follows is the direct opposite of your position as someone who seems not to be aware of Normative Economics. They refer to someone who accepts and applies Normative Economic concepts, as explained.

Chris
by clayto
April 16th, 2009, 12:52 pm
Forum: Humanist Ethics & Morality
Topic: The Life You Can Save
Replies: 59
Views: 7286

Re: The Life You Can Save

Oh, what a muddle you are in, Nick! One hardly knows where to start. I will start with your last piece on Economics. There are different schools of thought regarding the role of 'values' in Economics. You seem to be aware of only one of them, the one known as Positive Economics (also the title of a ...
by clayto
April 15th, 2009, 9:25 am
Forum: Humanist Ethics & Morality
Topic: The Life You Can Save
Replies: 59
Views: 7286

Re: The Life You Can Save

Maybe it's just a question of perspective, Chris. I would fully expect the BHA to say that views upon world population should be based on reason, experience and shared human values, not religious or superstitious beliefs. Thus, the denial to women of effective methods of controlling their fertility...
by clayto
April 14th, 2009, 5:33 pm
Forum: Humanist Ethics & Morality
Topic: The Life You Can Save
Replies: 59
Views: 7286

Re: The Life You Can Save

PS If it was a barge which of the inland waterways was it on? Manchester Ship Canal maybe?

Chris
by clayto
April 14th, 2009, 5:30 pm
Forum: Humanist Ethics & Morality
Topic: The Life You Can Save
Replies: 59
Views: 7286

Re: The Life You Can Save

There is a view, quite widely held among Humanists I suspect, that 'religious belief' impacts quite markedly on population policy issues ------ not least with Roman Catholics (I was one of those once) and Muslims and probably others, who are in effect told to go forth and multiply . I hardly think I...
by clayto
April 14th, 2009, 1:51 pm
Forum: Humanist Ethics & Morality
Topic: The Life You Can Save
Replies: 59
Views: 7286

Re: The Life You Can Save

Population Singer deals with th population issue in a section headed 'The Planet Can't Hold Them' (p.120-124) and says if you think over-population is an over-riding priority you donate to organisations like Population Services International and PPF. Today it has been announced on the news that Davi...
by clayto
April 4th, 2009, 4:48 pm
Forum: Humanist Ethics & Morality
Topic: The Life You Can Save
Replies: 59
Views: 7286

Re: The Life You Can Save

On the topic of Utilitarianism, grammar king is explaining this effectively and has interpreted what I said correctly so I don't wish to add much more at this point, except that I don't think Utilitarianism or any ism or methodology should be looked on as something offering certain answers in every ...