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by clayto
April 4th, 2009, 4:25 pm
Forum: Humanist Ethics & Morality
Topic: The Life You Can Save
Replies: 59
Views: 7286

Re: The Life You Can Save

Nick wrote "The more taxes are added, pari passu, the less economic activity there will be. Singer is now effectively suggesting we increase that effective tax by a further 10%. Whereas normally this would be recycled in the economy, if it goes abroad it has a decelerating effect on the UK economy, ...
by clayto
April 3rd, 2009, 5:22 pm
Forum: Humanist Vegetarian Group
Topic: Cooking crabs
Replies: 16
Views: 8127

Re: Cooking crabs

By sheer coincidence I have just started correspondence with a local restaurant which has 'crab' listed as vegetarian. It is not even as if the crabs are the veggies, is it?

Chris
by clayto
April 3rd, 2009, 5:15 pm
Forum: Humanist Ethics & Morality
Topic: The Life You Can Save
Replies: 59
Views: 7286

Re: The Life You Can Save

Hello SJ "I don't see how you can turn something such as levels of pleasure into something quantifiable." Nor do I, or rather 'usefully quantifiable for policy-making', but I think I touched on that when I said early Utilitarians 'went off the rails' in proposing the calculation of such things, and ...
by clayto
April 2nd, 2009, 10:22 am
Forum: Humanist Ethics & Morality
Topic: The Life You Can Save
Replies: 59
Views: 7286

Re: The Life You Can Save

SarahJade wrote "Do I remember rightly that Singer is a utilitarian? I found most of the book incredibly interesting, but utilitarianism just doesn't sit well with me. How does utilitarianism fit in with humanism?" Singer is a (possibly the ) leading Utilitarian philosopher today. The Humanist appro...
by clayto
April 1st, 2009, 5:05 pm
Forum: Humanist Ethics & Morality
Topic: The Life You Can Save
Replies: 59
Views: 7286

Re: The Life You Can Save

Nick, as I suspected you seem to be in a bit of a muddle regarding what is being said about Singer. To take a few examples: Quote: "I disagree with your apparent proposition that the only reason why anyone may disagree with Singer is because they have misunderstood him." That is neither my position ...
by clayto
April 1st, 2009, 11:27 am
Forum: Humanist Ethics & Morality
Topic: The Life You Can Save
Replies: 59
Views: 7286

Re: The Life You Can Save

Nick says of Singer "there are plenty of people who think he's the devil incarnate". My experience, limited as it is so far although I have read some of his books, is that for the most part 'people who think he is the devil incarnate' are either people who actually do believe in the devil or people ...
by clayto
April 1st, 2009, 10:19 am
Forum: Humanist Vegetarian Group
Topic: Cooking crabs
Replies: 16
Views: 8127

Re: Cooking crabs

I in fact find it 'unnatural' and more difficult to read postings with quoted material separated out in boxes, although I presume others find otherwise. It is just a matter of personal preference. We are all different.

Chris
by clayto
March 31st, 2009, 3:05 pm
Forum: Humanist Ethics & Morality
Topic: The Life You Can Save
Replies: 59
Views: 7286

Re: The Life You Can Save

"--- others' enthusiasm for Singer has that effect on people." What 'people' are these I wonder? I know he has enthusiastic support from such 'people' as A. C. Grayling and Richard Dawkins and many lesser folk, including presumably some of those who voted him Australia's 'Humanist of the Year'. I kn...
by clayto
March 31st, 2009, 2:06 pm
Forum: Humanist Vegetarian Group
Topic: Cooking crabs
Replies: 16
Views: 8127

Re: Cooking crabs

Paolo "Of course they feel pain, I can't believe that anyone would consider that they couldn't - after all, they have nerves and are able to react to a stimulus. However, the screaming would not be a response to pain, it would be caused by air trapped in the shell rapidly escaping as it heated up in...
by clayto
March 30th, 2009, 6:44 pm
Forum: Humanist Vegetarian Group
Topic: The Life You Can Save
Replies: 1
Views: 3992

The Life You Can Save

I have copied this here because Singer is, as well as a Humanist philosopher, a leading figure in the worldwide vegetarian and animal welfare movement and well known to supporters of HVG. However, I suggest any discussion should be continued in the Positive Humanism Forum. The Life You Can Save Lead...
by clayto
March 30th, 2009, 6:32 pm
Forum: Humanist Ethics & Morality
Topic: The Life You Can Save
Replies: 59
Views: 7286

The Life You Can Save

The Life You Can Save Leading Humanist philosopher Peter Singer has just published a book which is more than a book, it is an attempt to change the culture of how we view contributing to charities which fight world poverty. The book is accompanied by a campaigning website, forums and blogs at http:/...
by clayto
March 30th, 2009, 1:39 pm
Forum: Positive Humanism
Topic: Humanists can help with loans
Replies: 10
Views: 1292

Re: Humanists can help with loans

For the record, my first loan has been repaid and now re-lent (to a small motor vehicle business in Mongolia). The following link will take you directly to our team Atheists, Agnostics, Skeptics, Freethinkers, Secular Humanists and the Non-Religious.

http://www.kiva.org/team/atheists

Chris
by clayto
March 29th, 2009, 6:00 pm
Forum: Humanist Vegetarian Group
Topic: Cooking crabs
Replies: 16
Views: 8127

Re: Cooking crabs

Here it is. Chris Physorg.org ^ | March 27, 2009 | Queen’s University Belfast Posted on 27 March 2009 13:38:31 by ConservativeMind New research published by a Queen’s University Belfast academic has shown that crabs not only suffer pain but that they retain a memory of it. The study, which looked at...
by clayto
March 29th, 2009, 5:56 pm
Forum: Humanist Vegetarian Group
Topic: Cooking crabs
Replies: 16
Views: 8127

Re: Cooking crabs

It was on Radio 4 during the last few days about 7.00 / 8.00 am. My radio is set to switch on at 7 to wake me up but is not always successful. There was a Prof. being interviewed on his research or other work and it is info on that which I would like. I must start doing some searches. My childhood e...
by clayto
March 28th, 2009, 4:32 pm
Forum: Humanist Vegetarian Group
Topic: Cooking crabs
Replies: 16
Views: 8127

Cooking crabs

I half heard an early morning radio report / interview the other day about pain awareness in crabs (and lobsters?) and the best (least worst) way of cooking them. I was half asleep so did not get the details. Does anyone have info on this?

Chris
by clayto
March 28th, 2009, 4:28 pm
Forum: Humanist Vegetarian Group
Topic: Battery Hens
Replies: 14
Views: 7369

Re: Battery Hens

I understand Sainsbury's no longer sell eggs from 'caged birds' but am not sure if they sell 'barn eggs' and what the pros / cons of that are.

What about the use of eggs in various products such as cakes and even Quorn? Can one check if they are free range?

Chris
by clayto
March 15th, 2009, 3:26 pm
Forum: Humanist Vegetarian Group
Topic: Spring
Replies: 0
Views: 3900

Spring

HVG Member Michael Maybury has forwarded the item below. Chris The World Bank estimates that livestock production is responsible for 50% of greenhouse gases. If you're interested in real facts and statistics that show easy ways to reduce everyone's carbon footprint drastically, please read on. No mo...
by clayto
February 17th, 2009, 10:43 am
Forum: Humanist Vegetarian Group
Topic: HVG New Year Statement on Humanist Vegetarians
Replies: 5
Views: 5272

Re: HVG New Year Statement on Humanist Vegetarians

Alan C (and Paolo) You seem not to have grasped that the passage you are criticising is not a statement of my position but, as explained, is copied from an email from Rosamund Raha, to whom your apology for the discourteous remark "Sometimes your arrogance amazes me!" should be directed. Again, as e...
by clayto
February 16th, 2009, 9:23 am
Forum: Humanist Vegetarian Group
Topic: HVG New Year Statement on Humanist Vegetarians
Replies: 5
Views: 5272

Re: HVG New Year Statement on Humanist Vegetarians

Roz (Rosamund Raha) has asked me to make it clear that her comments are in a personal capacity not as an officer of the Vegan Society. She says "Would you be able to change this to 'I have been in some correspondence with Rosamund Raha' and take out the 'of the Vegan Society.' It's just that our CEO...
by clayto
February 10th, 2009, 4:36 pm
Forum: Sciences and pseudo-science
Topic: Modern economics
Replies: 1408
Views: 96418

Re: Modern economics

Quote: "Can we agree a clearer definition of 'Science'?" From its inception the BHA Science Group, now I think called Humanists 4 Science or something similar, has devoted a lot of effort to this question so it might be best just to look at their Forum? If they have come to any worthwhle conclusions...