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#421 Post by coffee » April 20th, 2018, 11:52 am

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EU rejects May's Irish border proposals: Brexit News for Friday 20 April

https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... -20-april/

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MIGRANTS DEAL FEAR Theresa May may strike post-Brexit deal on EU immigration rights BEFORE report into impact of sky-high migration is ready

Brexit backers fear the Government is ready to make huge concessions on immigration controls to Brussels in a bid to get a bumper trade deal

By Steve Hawkes, Deputy Political Editor

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6087832/t ... -is-ready/

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#422 Post by animist » April 20th, 2018, 3:46 pm

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animist wrote: No, i DO NOT BELIEVE IN MY COUNTRY - WHY THE HELL SHOULD I?
:laughter: It's rather funny how we can draw completely different inferences from a simple phrase! I was making the distinction between believing in your country and any other. I was looking for an alternative country. :) And "believe in" meaning something like worth supporting or contributing to. (I was attributing you capitals to thick thumbs, not shouting. Was I right to do so..?) So you may have a different answer if you take that perspective. I was also rather startled by an apparent assertion that no contribution to the society in which one lives had any merit, though, based on your response, I don't think that was your intention.
well, the reason that we took the phrase in different ways was that it is indeed simple. No, it is not just simple, it is simple-minded, and I was annoyed by its use. Brexiters are not notably subtle thinkers, they prefer to use phrases like this which can mean just about anything; another one is "Don't talk down Britain!" - which has been used by Brexit MPs as well as by the hoi polloi. What this abuse of language attempts to do is to shut down anyone who disagrees with Brexit by implying that they are unpatriotic, and that somehow criticising Brexit is tantamount to weakening and insulting Britain.
Nick wrote: So should we care rather more for the destruction of the economies of Greece and other EU nations than you have so far thought...?
oh dear, old faithful again! Yes, of course we should be concerned, and continued membership of the EU might well be a better place to show this than being outside as a struggling offshore island which does not know what it's doing. And these are not the poorest countries in the world, are they? Greece possibly fiddled its national accounts in order to join, IIRC
Nick wrote: This is not "belief in ones country", but belief in the policy being persued by any particular government- rather different, I'd say.
well yes, agreed, but what seems to be happening is the two are being conflated. As I said above, belief in anything can mean anything. So a Christian "believes in" Satan, ie that the latter exists and is powerful; s/he believes in God in a rather different way of course. I do not believe in faith, and I think that blind faith in anything is not humanistic

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#423 Post by coffee » April 20th, 2018, 5:53 pm

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JAPAN: Governments working on 'all singing, all dancing' post-Brexit trade deal.

https://www.westmonster.com/britain-to- ... ith-japan/

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NEW ZEALAND PM: "We are here, ready and waiting and really willing to model what those future trading agreements from the UK’s perspective could look like.

"When you are ready we are. We have said we are a willing and waiting partner many times."

https://www.westmonster.com/new-zealand ... rade-deal/

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AMERICA: Trump says he's working on 'major trade deal' with UK.

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“If migration only has positive effects, how is it possible that over the past two and a half years 330 have been killed in Europe in terrorist attacks that have been committed by people with immigrant backgrounds?”


https://www.westmonster.com/hungarian-f ... back-down/

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Aldi and B&M Bedford warehouses 'to create thousands of jobs'

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UK Tech Investment Surges 115% #DespiteBrexit

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Bank of England boss lowers Brexit job loss estimate

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#424 Post by coffee » April 20th, 2018, 6:28 pm

Germany issued shock BREXIT WARNING: Nation faces 'MASSIVE consequences' over UK's EU exit

BREXIT will have “massive consequences” for Germany’s economy and the nation could suffer more than almost any other country once the UK leaves the bloc, causing a nightmare for Angela Merkel, according to new research.

By MARK CHANDLER

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/94 ... rkel-eu-uk

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'No deal Brexit would BANKRUPT EU’ Political editor issues stunning warning to Brussels

A NO deal Brexit would bankrupt the European Union the Sunday Express’ Political Editor warned during a heated debate on the latest amendments to the EU Withdrawal Bill.


By HOLLY PYNE

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/94898 ... rawal-bill

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#425 Post by coffee » April 20th, 2018, 7:51 pm

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A second Brexit referendum would tear Britain apart, says @martinwolf_

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London voted world's top financial centre above New York for the first time in five years

http://www.cityam.com/284363/london-vot ... first-time

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The EU is cynically exploiting misconceptions and playing brinkmanship with the Irish border to try to squeeze the maximum political advantage out of it - and leave the UK with the minimum political freedom after Brexit

https://brexitcentral.com/eu-cynically- ... the-thumb/

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#426 Post by coffee » April 20th, 2018, 8:11 pm

'EU is using Ireland to lock UK inside!' Tory MEP's SHOCK warning about EU 'game plan'

THE EUROPEAN UNION will exploit the difficulties of reaching a deal on the Irish border to trap the United Kingdom inside the bloc after Brexit, Tory MEP David Campbell Bannerman said.

By AURORA BOSOTTI

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/94903 ... land-video

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#427 Post by animist » April 21st, 2018, 10:40 am

coffee wrote:Westmonster

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AMERICA: Trump says he's working on 'major trade deal' with UK.

https://www.westmonster.com/trump-worki ... icises-eu/
so Trump accuses the EU of being protectionist? This is the man who is starting trade wars in order to save American jobs!

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#428 Post by coffee » April 21st, 2018, 10:42 am

No 10 ‘doesn’t recognise’ reports on rejected Irish border: Brexit News for Saturday 21 April

https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... -21-april/

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#429 Post by animist » April 21st, 2018, 10:45 am

coffee wrote:'EU is using Ireland to lock UK inside!' Tory MEP's SHOCK warning about EU 'game plan'

THE EUROPEAN UNION will exploit the difficulties of reaching a deal on the Irish border to trap the United Kingdom inside the bloc after Brexit, Tory MEP David Campbell Bannerman said.

By AURORA BOSOTTI

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/94903 ... land-video
shock warning? No, a conspiracy theory with no evidential support. The EU probably wish, as so many people have done in the past, that the island of Ireland would simply vanish under the waves! :D

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#430 Post by coffee » April 21st, 2018, 5:23 pm

BREXIT WIN: Australian PM reveals UK 'in talks' to sign EPIC trade deal worth £10TRILLION

AUSTRALIA'S Prime Minister has thrown his support behind Theresa May's Brexit endeavour, claiming that he will deploy his own country's resources to ensure that Britain's departure from the EU is a success - before hinting at a shock £10tn Brexit trade deal.


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https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/94937 ... P-Turnbull

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#431 Post by Alan H » April 21st, 2018, 5:31 pm

coffee wrote:BREXIT WIN: Australian PM reveals UK 'in talks' to sign EPIC trade deal worth £10TRILLION

AUSTRALIA'S Prime Minister has thrown his support behind Theresa May's Brexit endeavour, claiming that he will deploy his own country's resources to ensure that Britain's departure from the EU is a success - before hinting at a shock £10tn Brexit trade deal.


By OLI SMITH

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/94937 ... P-Turnbull
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Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#432 Post by coffee » April 22nd, 2018, 1:27 pm

David Davis 'to lead Cabinet revolt against Theresa May' over 'stitch up' customs deal with the EU: “Brexit News for Saturday 21 April” is locked Brexit News for Saturday 21 April


https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... -21-april/

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#433 Post by Alan H » April 22nd, 2018, 2:02 pm

coffee wrote:David Davis 'to lead Cabinet revolt against Theresa May' over 'stitch up' customs deal with the EU: “Brexit News for Saturday 21 April” is locked Brexit News for Saturday 21 April


https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... -21-april/
Awww... bless.
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#434 Post by coffee » April 22nd, 2018, 2:07 pm

Theresa May is preparing to surrender over plans to leave the Customs Union after Brexit

http://uk.businessinsider.com/theresa-m ... ?r=US&IR=T

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Brexit: Theresa May ‘may surrender over customs union’

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brex ... -lr7qkhslv

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#435 Post by coffee » April 22nd, 2018, 6:01 pm

'CALL EU'S BLUFF!' Jacob Rees-Mogg urges May not to back down in Irish border dispute

LEADING Brexiteer Jacob Rees-Mogg has called on the Government to call the EU's bluff over Northern Ireland and dare them to put up a hard border between north and south.

By CAMILLA TOMINEY

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... -rees-mogg

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#436 Post by Alan H » April 22nd, 2018, 6:58 pm

coffee wrote:'CALL EU'S BLUFF!' Jacob Rees-Mogg urges May not to back down in Irish border dispute

LEADING Brexiteer Jacob Rees-Mogg has called on the Government to call the EU's bluff over Northern Ireland and dare them to put up a hard border between north and south.

By CAMILLA TOMINEY

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... -rees-mogg
So, how's that going to work out for, say, NI farmers, coffee? Or do you just have faith it'll all be OK?
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#437 Post by coffee » April 22nd, 2018, 7:34 pm

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A frictionless border with the EU already exists, and we should copy it, writes Dominic Lawson

A border with the EU works for the Swiss. It can work in Ireland after Brexit

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A frictionless border with the EU already exists, and we should copy it

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comm ... -jxv6qf9dh

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#438 Post by coffee » April 22nd, 2018, 7:59 pm

Government: Brexit is a "golden opportunity" for UK food and drink sector

http://www.cityam.com/284467/government ... -and-drink


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/finance/other ... ar-AAwbUCm

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UK boosts footprint in Asia-Pacific, wants to join TPP

http://www.afr.com/news/uk-boosts-footp ... 419-h0z0e1

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#439 Post by Alan H » April 22nd, 2018, 8:09 pm

coffee wrote:BrexitCentral


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A frictionless border with the EU already exists, and we should copy it, writes Dominic Lawson

A border with the EU works for the Swiss. It can work in Ireland after Brexit

dominic lawson

A frictionless border with the EU already exists, and we should copy it

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comm ... -jxv6qf9dh
Coffee, would you mind please tidying your copy and paste stuff up a bit: there is quite a bit of unnecessarily duplication that makes it more difficult than it needs to be to read.
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#440 Post by coffee » April 23rd, 2018, 9:19 am

Alan H wrote:
coffee wrote:BrexitCentral


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A frictionless border with the EU already exists, and we should copy it, writes Dominic Lawson

A border with the EU works for the Swiss. It can work in Ireland after Brexit

dominic lawson

A frictionless border with the EU already exists, and we should copy it

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comm ... -jxv6qf9dh
Coffee, would you mind please tidying your copy and paste stuff up a bit: there is quite a bit of unnecessarily duplication that makes it more difficult than it needs to be to read.
Ok. I will try, thanks.

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#441 Post by coffee » April 23rd, 2018, 10:12 am

Theresa May vows she won’t bow to Remainers’ demands we stay in EU’s Customs Union: Brexit News for Monday 23 April

https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... -23-april/

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