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Alan H
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by Alan H » June 15th, 2019, 8:13 pm
Latest post of the previous page:
Fantastic work of fiction!
Alan Henness
There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:
1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?
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Alan H
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by Alan H » June 16th, 2019, 1:33 pm
Keep the jokes coming, coffee.
Alan Henness
There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:
1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?
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Alan H
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by Alan H » June 16th, 2019, 11:53 pm
coffee wrote:Richard Tice
Verified account
@TiceRichard
My first day in Brussels as a new MEP was enough to get a taste of the astonishing privileges that go with the job. Ultimately, MEPs are just window dressing - an inconvenient but necessary doff of the cap towards fig-leaf democracy.
Read more by me here https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9304815/w ... ssels-now/
RICHARD TICE Why we must quit Brussels now – the sooner we leave this grotesque temple of excess the better
By Richard Tice, MEP for the East of England
https://twitter.com/TiceRichard/status/ ... 1262119936
It's bizarre that he applied for and was given a job he knows nothing about and, I suspect, he is utterly incapable of doing.
Alan Henness
There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:
1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?
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coffee
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by coffee » June 17th, 2019, 4:23 pm
Brexit Britain open for business! UK-listed firms to start selling shares in China
THE global future of London after Brexit has been boosted after UK-based companies were able to sell shares in China for the first time today.
https://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/ ... a-business
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EU shocked as investment in Britain booms - and beats France and Germany combined
BRITAIN has maintained its position as Europe’s foremost investment hub by attracting more business than Germany and France combined, new United Nations Conference on Trade and Develop figures reveal.
By JOE BARNES, BRUSSELS CORRESPONDENT
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/11398 ... c.outbrain
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Alan H
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by Alan H » June 18th, 2019, 10:58 am
So, where does all their money come from, coffee? Can anyone confirm not a penny has been received from abroad in breach of electoral law?
Alan Henness
There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:
1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?
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Alan H
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by Alan H » June 18th, 2019, 12:23 pm
Tsk, tsk...
Visit to the Brexit Party [by the
Electoral Commission:
The Electoral Commission visited The Brexit Party on Tuesday 21 May to review the systems it has in place to receive funds. We have concluded that the fundraising structure adopted by the party leaves it open to a high and on-going risk of receiving and accepting impermissible donations. We have made recommendations that will, if implemented by the party, achieve and maintain robust procedures for receiving funds and help it comply with its legal requirements.
Nigel Farage's Brexit Party ordered to check EVERY £25 donation for foreign cashNigel Farage has said that the majority of the party's funding has come from individual 'supporter' fees of £25 a time.
But parties are only required to collect information on the source of donations over £500, so there’s no way of knowing whether someone has done that using PayPal.
And there are no regulations at all governing cash given to political parties as “membership fees”, such as the £25 payment to register as a Brexit Party supporter.
The Commission also recommended the party revamp its online system to require donors to provide addresses and contact details and only accept payments from cards that match the payer’s address.
And it suggested removing the site's £500 cap on online donations because it "may encourage those who want to make a payment in excess of £500 to make multiple payments, which the Party has to monitor, identify and check for permissibility."
The report also include a lower-risk recommendation to separate the £25 supporter fees from other donations. This should be in place, the Commission say, within six months.
The Commission said they were "concerned" that the party had no written procedures for accepting the £25 supporter fees, "given that the Party’s existing funding model is based around the receipt of such payments."
The Electoral Commission's Louise Edwards told the DCMS Committee: “They need to go back and look at the payments they have received, over or under £500, and they need to satisfy themselves that they are sure those amounts of money are permissible. And if they are not, they need to forfeit those amounts of money.”
She added: "It’s for the party to satisfy themselves of that - and we’ll be watching them do that work"
Electoral Commission Chief Exec Bob Posner told the Committee that any money that the party couldn't be sure is permissible should be returned - and any money that could not be returned would be handed to the Treasury.
A spokesperson for the Brexit Party said they would be implementing the recommendations in full "to the best of our ability."
The best of the ability of Farage hardly inspires confidence...
Alan Henness
There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:
1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?
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Alan H
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by Alan H » June 18th, 2019, 7:30 pm
Deciding to detonate a few nuclear weapons means uncertainty will end, but it's interesting to see you seem to have bought into the false narrative and bogus rhetoric,
Alan Henness
There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:
1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?
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animist
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by animist » June 19th, 2019, 12:57 pm
Alan H wrote:
Deciding to detonate a few nuclear weapons means uncertainty will end, but it's interesting to see you seem to have bought into the false narrative and bogus rhetoric,
so insane. All that leaving without a deal will settle is the uncertainty about whether we will leave without a deal - nothing else. All the real uncertainties will increase for business. it's almost tempting to hope that no-deal Brexit will happen, if only because then the morons, from Bill Cash to coffee, will realise that they were wrong - of course, at the expense of so many jobs and people stuck between this mad nation and the rest of our continent. But, it is not going happen, Alan, is it? Do you agree with me that the only conceivable end to the Bojo and Faraj madness is that our MPs, just about, are certain to stop the rot?
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Alan H
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by Alan H » June 19th, 2019, 2:37 pm
The failure of Brexiters all along has been to understand reality and to learn from their mistakes when they are pointed out. They just keep spouting the same old nonsense whether it's 'we'll be fine on WTO rules' or 'we'll solve the Irish problem with unspecified alternative arrangements'. But the certainly about leaving with no deal is that there will be tariffs - and no one will like them when they are imposed. And if we do away with tariffs for one country, we do away with them for all countries and let everything in: that will devastate industry and agriculture.
Will it be stopped? Who the fuck knows. I have no faith that there are sufficient MPs who are compos mentis, let alone capable of stopping this utter bloody madness. There was an Asimov novel where some humans had some superhuman skills and called those who didn't possess them 'non-comps'. I think we could appropriate that term for many of the 650 in Parliament - and just about all in Government. Anyone who cannot see the outcome of this madness must surely not be compos mentis?
Alan Henness
There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:
1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?
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coffee
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by coffee » June 19th, 2019, 4:32 pm
A UK - Ukraine free trade agreement will help to secure the UK's food security post-Brexit
https://www.politicshome.com/news/world ... ement-will
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Bercow admits parliament is POWERLESS to stop hard Brexit but blasts Raab threat ‘a joke!'
HOUSE of Commons speaker John Bercow has admitted lawmakers cannot stop a hard Brexit if no deal is approved with Brussels before the October deadline, as he brushed off claims parliament is meddling in the divorce process.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... parliament
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Brexit U-TURN? How arch-Remainer Tony Blair was elected on 'pledge to LEAVE EU'
TONY BLAIR has become one of the leading Remain voices in the wake of the 2016 Brexit referendum, but unearthed reports reveal he was elected on a vow to leave the EEC – the precursor to the EU – in his early political career.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/11361 ... o-deal-spt
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Alan H
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by Alan H » June 19th, 2019, 4:45 pm
Have you ANY inkling just how pathetic, embarrassing and insulting this is, coffee? I suspect not.
Alan Henness
There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:
1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?
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coffee
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by coffee » June 19th, 2019, 6:31 pm
Boris Johnson boost: Parliament cannot force through Brexit delay - 'It's in his gift'
PARLIAMENT cannot block Boris Johnson from forcing the UK to leave the EU by October 31 if he is Prime Minister, supporter Iain Duncan Smith has claimed.
By FREDDIE JORDAN
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/11421 ... news-video
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Alan H
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by Alan H » June 19th, 2019, 6:42 pm
coffee wrote:Boris Johnson boost: Parliament cannot force through Brexit delay - 'It's in his gift'
PARLIAMENT cannot block Boris Johnson from forcing the UK to leave the EU by October 31 if he is Prime Minister, supporter Iain Duncan Smith has claimed.
By FREDDIE JORDAN
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/11421 ... news-video
He misunderstand or misrepresents - deliberately or otherwise - Parliamentary sovereignty. But wasn't it all about our elected MPs taking back control, coffee? Or has that promise been forgotten as well?
Alan Henness
There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:
1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?
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coffee
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by coffee » June 20th, 2019, 9:27 am
True patriot Mark Francois slams Remainer Theresa May who has "cost us three lost years" and believes the next PM must be "a Brexiteer who is utterly determined to leave by Halloween".
It's Last Chance Saloon for the Tories - if we don't leave by October 31 they are finished!
https://twitter.com/LeaveEUOfficial/sta ... 9169852416
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Alan H
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by Alan H » June 20th, 2019, 10:56 am
coffee wrote:It's Last Chance Saloon for the Tories - if we don't leave by October 31 they are finished!
All good. It's a wonder they have not already imploded - just shows the power of putting party above country - and everyone else.
Alan Henness
There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:
1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?
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coffee
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by coffee » June 20th, 2019, 4:24 pm
WATCH | @Jacob_Rees_Mogg puts Philip Hammond in his place over his no-deal Project Fear scaremongering: "The Treasury has been consistently opposed to Brexit. It forecast there would be a loss of between 500-800,000 jobs purely on a vote to leave. How wrong it has been!"
https://twitter.com/LeaveEUOfficial/sta ... 3987041282
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Mr Hammond is wrong. Leaving the EU without signing the Withdrawal Treaty will make us better off. We can spend all the money we save on our priorities instead of paying all that tax to Brussels
https://twitter.com/johnredwood/status/ ... 3307468800
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.@ABridgen "...it's interesting that the European Union have now announced and made public, they're looking at these alternative arrangements for the border, which they claimed didn't exist only a few months ago"
https://twitter.com/BrexitCentral/statu ... 0616384512
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