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Henny Penny

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Re: Henny Penny

#721 Post by Tetenterre » May 3rd, 2012, 9:01 am

Latest post of the previous page:

Themistocles? He missed oak lees.


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#722 Post by animist » May 3rd, 2012, 1:37 pm

Waterloo portaloo?

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#723 Post by Tetenterre » May 3rd, 2012, 2:15 pm

Your go
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#724 Post by animist » May 19th, 2012, 8:15 pm

Hennikinsy Pen nikinsy - financial alliance which is historically Lancastrian but not Liverpudlian

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#725 Post by Emma Woolgatherer » May 20th, 2012, 12:43 pm

Mancunian bank union!

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#726 Post by animist » May 20th, 2012, 12:49 pm

yes - strange that you have returned as soon as I thought up a new HP!

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#727 Post by Emma Woolgatherer » May 21st, 2012, 12:32 pm

A happy coincidence.

Hennikinnety Penni kinnety: The cowardly spirit of a light flintlock musket

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#728 Post by animist » May 21st, 2012, 1:04 pm

pusillanimous fuzil animus?

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#729 Post by Emma Woolgatherer » May 21st, 2012, 1:54 pm

Yep. (Though I think "fusil" is the more usual spelling.)

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#730 Post by animist » May 21st, 2012, 5:45 pm

metal container goes down in flames - Hennikinsy Pen Nik Insy

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#731 Post by animist » May 23rd, 2012, 6:27 pm

animist wrote:metal container goes down in flames - Hennikinsy Pen Nik Insy
if we are going to follow the rule that TNT mentioned a week or two ago, this would be Ennikinsy Pen Nik Insy

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#732 Post by animist » May 26th, 2012, 5:12 pm

think of a specific type of metal and type of container; flames need not be involved but heat is

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#733 Post by Tetenterre » May 27th, 2012, 11:04 am

"<something>urn Crash And Burn"?
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#734 Post by animist » May 27th, 2012, 1:04 pm

Tetenterreme wrote:"<something>urn Crash And Burn"?
sorry, good try but nowhere near [you patronising prat, animist], have another shot - it is a very common combination of metal and container, and the heat also involves light

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#735 Post by Emma Woolgatherer » May 31st, 2012, 11:48 am

If it's

incanDEScent tin can desCENT

then it doesn't rhyme! [-X

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#736 Post by Tetenterre » May 31st, 2012, 12:14 pm

Hah! Emma's posting of that has just alerted me to the fact that I can't count (syllables)! And I still teach maths... :laughter:
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#737 Post by animist » May 31st, 2012, 1:27 pm

Emma Woolgatherer wrote:If it's

incanDEScent tin can desCENT

then it doesn't rhyme! [-X
yes, and yes it does! What's a stress difference matter?? :laughter:

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#738 Post by Emma Woolgatherer » May 31st, 2012, 2:08 pm

The stress difference doesn't necessarily matter on its own. MancUnian bAnk union worked fine, because the stress difference wasn't huge, and the vowel sounds matched. It would work in a poem, and especially in a song, where stresses tend to get flattened out by the imposed rhythm of the tune. In this case, though, there's a much greater stress difference, such that each unstressed vowel becomes a schwa (ə), which doesn't match the corresponding vowel sound in the other part of the rhyme. So it wouldn't work in a poem or a song. When both syllables are unstressed it doesn't matter if the vowels are different (as in "Boris cope horoscope"), but there's no way an unstressed "əss" rhymes with a stressed "ess", or an unstressed "ənt" rhymes with a stressed "ent". We had the same problem with "Handle a bra candelabra", where we have an unstressed ə failing twice to rhyme with a stressed ah. And before that there was "Drop a cat a petal, Popocatépetl", but the way most of us mispronounce the last word actually gives us a perfect rhyme.

I confess I've been quite lax about all this hitherto. But I think it's worth considering, as it does make clues much harder to get.

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#739 Post by Tetenterre » May 31st, 2012, 2:23 pm

With the way I talk its a case of dess vs deess.

Anyway, I think Emma has a valid point. However, could we contrive away of indicating when the rhyme is visual but not audible?

I think it's your go, Emma... :smile:
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#740 Post by animist » May 31st, 2012, 2:30 pm

Tetenterre wrote:With the way I talk its a case of dess vs deess.

Anyway, I think Emma has a valid point. However, could we contrive away of indicating when the rhyme is visual but not audible?

I think it's your go, Emma... :smile:
that's true about pronunciation; we should say that it is a visual rhyme, but I think on this one I said it over to myself so many times (while grinning) that I convinced myself it was a real if eccentric rhyme :wink:

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Re: Henny Penny

#741 Post by animist » May 31st, 2012, 2:37 pm

Emma Woolgatherer wrote:The stress difference doesn't necessarily matter on its own. MancUnian bAnk union worked fine, because the stress difference wasn't huge, and the vowel sounds matched. It would work in a poem, and especially in a song, where stresses tend to get flattened out by the imposed rhythm of the tune. In this case, though, there's a much greater stress difference, such that each unstressed vowel becomes a schwa (ə), which doesn't match the corresponding vowel sound in the other part of the rhyme. So it wouldn't work in a poem or a song. When both syllables are unstressed it doesn't matter if the vowels are different (as in "Boris cope horoscope"), but there's no way an unstressed "əss" rhymes with a stressed "ess", or an unstressed "ənt" rhymes with a stressed "ent". We had the same problem with "Handle a bra candelabra", where we have an unstressed ə failing twice to rhyme with a stressed ah. And before that there was "Drop a cat a petal, Popocatépetl", but the way most of us mispronounce the last word actually gives us a perfect rhyme.

I confess I've been quite lax about all this hitherto. But I think it's worth considering, as it does make clues much harder to get.

Emma
I notice that the examples of stress mismatches are all mine - so do you always make sure that your stresses as well as your vowel sounds match? I imagine somehow that you do :D. "Handle a bra candelabra" - I see what you mean, but I suppose I feel that the slight mismatch makes for comic effect - the tin can one was a descent too far, I agree! Maybe you should give a mark out of ten each time :laughter:

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