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The Lord's Prayer advert

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Alan H
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The Lord's Prayer advert

#1 Post by Alan H » November 22nd, 2015, 7:02 pm

This hit the headlines today: Lord's Prayer cinema ad snub 'bewilders' Church of England

As pointed out by The Skeptic Magazine account on Twitter, what is bewildering is that the C of E is bewildered by an advertising agency refusing to accept their religious advert when its policy clearly states they do not accept religious adverts...
2. Required Standards
2.1 To be approved, an Advertisement must:
2.1.1 have been cleared as compliant with the UK Code of Non-Broadcast Advertising;
2.1.2 have received any necessary classification (for example a film classification for age rating);
2.1.3 not in the reasonable opinion of DCM constitute Political or Religious Advertising; and
2.1.4 otherwise comply with DCM’s Terms and Conditions (effective from 1 January 2015), as published on DCM’s website (http://www.dcm.co.uk/).
2.2 For the purposes of clause 2.1.3 above, Political or Religious Advertising means:
2.2.1 political advertising for the purposes of section 321 of the Communications Act 2003; or
2.2.2 advertising which wholly or partly advertises any religion, faith or equivalent systems of belief (including any absence of belief) or any part of any religion, faith or such equivalent systems of belief.
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#2 Post by Dave B » November 22nd, 2015, 7:36 pm

:rolleyes:

Rules iz rules, ennit?
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#3 Post by Alan C. » November 22nd, 2015, 9:20 pm

Welby has lost the plot! AKA come to his senses.
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#4 Post by Alan H » November 22nd, 2015, 9:33 pm

Alan C. wrote:Welby has lost the plot! AKA come to his senses.
Tragic as those deaths were, why does he doubt the existence of his god over them when millions die every year of starvation, disease and natural disasters?
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#5 Post by Dave B » November 22nd, 2015, 10:37 pm

Alan H wrote:
Alan C. wrote:Welby has lost the plot! AKA come to his senses.
Tragic as those deaths were, why does he doubt the existence of his god over them when millions die every year of starvation, disease and natural disasters?
+1
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#6 Post by Alan H » November 23rd, 2015, 1:01 pm

The C of E making stuff up? Who'd have thought it? No one 'banned' the Church of England ad – they're making it up
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#7 Post by animist » November 23rd, 2015, 8:36 pm

Alan C. wrote:Welby has lost the plot! AKA come to his senses.
that's just it. I find it very strange that a priest of JW's age, experience and education needs to be brought to a realisation that God does NOT actually love us (or do anything else, FTM) by the Paris events. Not to demean the latter, but they are only the most recent, and certainly not the most important in terms of human deaths, examples of the innumerable failures of God to intervene in order to prevent humans being inhuman to each other, let alone to the rest of creation

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#8 Post by Dave B » November 23rd, 2015, 9:15 pm

animist wrote:
Alan C. wrote:Welby has lost the plot! AKA come to his senses.
that's just it. I find it very strange that a priest of JW's age, experience and education needs to be brought to a realisation that God does NOT actually love us (or do anything else, FTM) by the Paris events. Not to demean the latter, but they are only the most recent, and certainly not the most important in terms of human deaths, examples of the innumerable failures of God to intervene in order to prevent humans being inhuman to each other, let alone to the rest of creation
Perhaps he is becoming a Deist, coming to believe in a creator god who does not give a fuck about what happens after?!
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#9 Post by Alan H » November 24th, 2015, 1:48 pm

Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
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#10 Post by Dave B » November 24th, 2015, 2:45 pm

On the band wagon again? That seems to be his prime strategy :sad2:
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#11 Post by Alan H » November 24th, 2015, 9:08 pm

A statement from the Advertising Standards Authority: Religious advertising and the rules
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2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
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#12 Post by Alan H » December 1st, 2015, 1:29 pm

Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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