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But is it art?

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Re: But is it art?

#141 Post by Dave B » September 28th, 2013, 1:26 pm

Latest post of the previous page:

Seeing the numbers is bad enough but seeing just what those fallen soldiers would look like (though not with the gore, the smell and the noise of the real thing) brings it right home.

I think it is art, ephemeral maybe but it has a message, makes one think and, no doubt, invokes comment.
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Re: But is it art?

#142 Post by Alan H » October 3rd, 2013, 2:58 pm

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Re: But is it art?

#143 Post by Dave B » October 3rd, 2013, 3:57 pm

Not art in my book but a good demonstration of a kind of dynamic "trompe l'oeil"
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Re: But is it art?

#144 Post by Alan H » October 20th, 2013, 4:36 pm

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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
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#145 Post by Dave B » October 20th, 2013, 5:56 pm

That is brilliant - thanks, Allan.

I watched the clip of the American scout leader toppling the rock as well. A perfect example of almost everything that is wrong with that country. I actually wished it had fallen on him and broken his legs . . .
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Re: But is it art?

#146 Post by Alan H » December 14th, 2013, 3:15 pm

I'm not sure I understand the ending, but very clever!

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#147 Post by Maria Mac » December 20th, 2013, 11:09 pm

It's art but these are also cool science pics

http://www.mymodernmet.com/profiles/blo ... e-xray-art

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Re: But is it art?

#148 Post by Alan H » December 27th, 2013, 9:39 am

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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: But is it art?

#149 Post by lewist » December 27th, 2013, 11:51 am

I saw the Ant Colony video on Fb a few days ago. Where is the justification in destroying these living creatures? Were they doing any harm? The end may be fascinating but does it justify the means?

I don't think such cruelty should be counted as art.
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#150 Post by Alan H » December 27th, 2013, 12:10 pm

I didn't see any ants in the video so perhaps it was an abandoned nest?
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#151 Post by Maria Mac » December 27th, 2013, 4:17 pm

lewist wrote:I saw the Ant Colony video on Fb a few days ago. Where is the justification in destroying these living creatures? Were they doing any harm? The end may be fascinating but does it justify the means?
Those were my feelings as I was watching it so I went looking for answers. On youtube the guy writes this:
These are the red imported fire ants which are harmful to the environment and their nests are exterminated by the millions in the United States using poisons, gasoline and fire, boiling water, and very rarely molten aluminum.

From Wikipedia: "Researchers have also been experimenting with extreme temperature change to exterminate RIFAs [red imported fire ants], such as injecting liquid nitrogen or pressurized steam into RIFA nests. Besides using hot steam, pouring boiling water into ant mounds has been found effective in exterminating their nests."

I recently did a casual survey and found that I have at least 120 of these colonies within an area of approximately three acres. http://www.anthillart.com/info/fire-ant-survey/

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#152 Post by Dave B » December 27th, 2013, 5:41 pm

I thought about this as well, then I remembered pouring boiling water, followed by dilute bleach, along the gap between the paving and wall under my front door, a gap alive with ants that were also infesting the house.

That was an immediate problem, literally on my doorstep, but I would do the same thing for, say, a wasps' nest in any place where it was a danger to me or others.
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#153 Post by Alan H » April 5th, 2014, 5:56 pm

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1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
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Re: But is it art?

#154 Post by Alan H » April 9th, 2014, 11:37 pm

Wow!


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#155 Post by Dave B » April 10th, 2014, 9:27 am

Coo!
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Re: But is it art?

#156 Post by Alan H » May 19th, 2014, 10:13 am

Art with a political and cultural message.

Isaac Cordal's "Follow the leaders." Berlin, Germany, April 2011. but it has been dubbed "Politicians discussing global warming"

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#158 Post by Alan H » August 4th, 2014, 3:19 pm

Wow! That must have taken a long time - it must have felt like an eternity... :exit:
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#159 Post by Alan H » August 11th, 2014, 12:36 am

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1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#160 Post by Dave B » September 18th, 2014, 5:51 pm

Gloucester Cathedral is hosting the second Crucible exhibition, the last was four years ago and was a great success. So much so that this one has attracted some well-known names included Damien Hurst (two pieces).

Possibly the one that attracted the most attention was "Fallen Angel", pictured below. If you look closely you will see the spoon and syringe by her right knee. Unfortunately the plinth is at just the right height for all those under about 5' 8" (that's me folks) cannot see these pieces of kit. A friend was invited to the review, before the crowd barriers were erected, when she could walk all round and right up to the piece.

You can see the marks of self-harming on her left arm, below the tourniquet. The skull has long been an artistic icon for death.

I suppose it is really art, but somehow I feel it is a bit more, but then perhaps that is the true function of art. I remembered the photo pf the young girl, on her knees, arms on the floor in front of her with her head resting on them. Should this "angel" die that is probably the position she would end up in.

Just wanted to share it.

The only criticism I have is that many people who have reached this point are not quite so rounded, more spent on the next fix than the next meal.

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#161 Post by Alan H » September 20th, 2014, 4:14 pm

Wow!

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3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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