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#401 Post by coffee » April 18th, 2018, 12:13 pm

Latest post of the previous page:

Latest economic data makes a mockery of George Osborne’s Project Fear: Brexit News for Wednesday 18 April

https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... -18-april/

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#402 Post by coffee » April 18th, 2018, 6:03 pm

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EU still funnelling money to Turkey to join the Brussels bloc, German Minister still talking up prospect.

Meanwhile Turkish fighter jets have harassed the Greek PM’s helicopter.

Welcome to the EU nuthouse.

https://www.westmonster.com/turkish-fig ... sels-bloc/

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British companies, particularly exporters, are confident that they will expand their business over the next 3 years

Exporters underpin rising UK business confidence


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/busi ... -5b6vtbl5k

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Office rentals in London are soaring, as more companies make long-term plans to stay in the capital!

https://order-order.com/2018/04/18/lond ... itebrexit/

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#403 Post by coffee » April 18th, 2018, 7:22 pm

'It would be EASY!' Former Australian High Commissioner DESTROYS Brexit trade naysayers

AUSTRALIA's former High Commissioner Alexander Downer said Britain could easily secure a free trade agreement with his country shortly after Brexit, despite Project Fear suggesting the UK would struggle to find new trade partners after leaving the bloc.

By AURORA BOSOTTI

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/94800 ... test-video

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Trudeau wants Canada-UK trade deal to "flip over" the day after Brexit

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/finance/other ... ar-AAw1892

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#404 Post by coffee » April 18th, 2018, 7:39 pm

George Osborne’s PROJECT FEAR exposed as a con as Brexit Britain BOOMS

BRITAIN is on the brink of a new era of rising living standards, it was declared last night. Chancellor Philip Hammond’s forecast makes a mockery of predecessor George Osborne’s “Project Fear” predictions of doom and gloom for the UK’s economy after Brexit.

By MACER HALL, POLITICAL EDITOR

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... nd-economy

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#405 Post by animist » April 19th, 2018, 10:36 am

coffee wrote:Michael Heaver

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EU still funnelling money to Turkey to join the Brussels bloc, German Minister still talking up prospect.

Meanwhile Turkish fighter jets have harassed the Greek PM’s helicopter.

Welcome to the EU nuthouse.

https://www.westmonster.com/turkish-fig ... sels-bloc/
Westmonster is well named - it is a monster of lies and irrelevant propaganda. So a spat between two countries which have a long history of antagonism is somehow relevant to Brexit. How? The Leave campaign lied on many issues, but one of the worst lies concerned Turkish entry to the EU. Britain, if we stayed in the EU, could have vetoed any such application to join, but somehow the mere thought of Turkey joining was used as a reason to Brexit - added to which was the suggestion that Syria and Iraq were next on the list!

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#406 Post by coffee » April 19th, 2018, 10:38 am

Lords accused of "playing with fire" after defeating Government twice on EU Withdrawal Bill: Brexit News for Thursday 19 April

https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... -19-april/

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#407 Post by Alan H » April 19th, 2018, 11:06 am

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coffee wrote:Michael Heaver

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EU still funnelling money to Turkey to join the Brussels bloc, German Minister still talking up prospect.

Meanwhile Turkish fighter jets have harassed the Greek PM’s helicopter.

Welcome to the EU nuthouse.

https://www.westmonster.com/turkish-fig ... sels-bloc/
Westmonster is well named - it is a monster of lies and irrelevant propaganda. So a spat between two countries which have a long history of antagonism is somehow relevant to Brexit. How? The Leave campaign lied on many issues, but one of the worst lies concerned Turkish entry to the EU. Britain, if we stayed in the EU, could have vetoed any such application to join, but somehow the mere thought of Turkey joining was used as a reason to Brexit - added to which was the suggestion that Syria and Iraq were next on the list!
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I can almost understand why some voted to leave if this was the lying tripe that was dished up to them.
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#408 Post by coffee » April 19th, 2018, 12:17 pm

Reversing Brexit would pose threat to Europe, warns Francois Hollande

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/0 ... -hollande/

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#409 Post by coffee » April 19th, 2018, 12:26 pm

INDIA PM BACKS UK Indian PM Narendra Modi vows his country will be an even closer trading partner to Britain after Brexit

PM Narendra Modi assured Theresa May London’s world-leading role in global finance meant Britain would remain vital after Brexit and he struck £1 billion in commercial investments

By Matt Dathan, Political Correspondent

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6088229/i ... er-brexit/

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#410 Post by coffee » April 19th, 2018, 5:38 pm

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FINLAND: Failed asylum seeker tells court he was “in war against women”.

He stabbed 2 women to death and wounded another 8 people.

https://www.westmonster.com/finland-kni ... ith-women/

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“No matter how many allies George Soros has in Brussels, we will not back down.

“Illegal immigrants will continue to not be allowed entry into Hungary in future.”


https://www.westmonster.com/hungarian-f ... back-down/

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CRISIS: Greek Court rules that migrants arriving no longer have to stay in Greece whilst they are processed.

Expect more chaos courtesy of the EU’s open door policy.

https://www.westmonster.com/greek-court ... of-europe/

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SWEDEN: Immigration is now the number one issue for voters, law & order and integration also top concerns.

Voters across Europe have had enough of EU mass migration madness!


https://www.westmonster.com/immigration ... sh-voters/

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Yesterday 83 LibDem Lords voted for an EU Customs Union. They are currently polling 7%. By comparison UKIP are on 4%.

Time to ditch the Lords for a chamber that actually represents the public.


https://www.westmonster.com/libdems-pol ... oms-union/

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CHAOS: Greek Court rules that asylum seekers arriving no longer have to be held in Greece whilst their applications are processed.

EU official describes ruling as “big worry”.

The shambles continues.



Greek Court: Asylum seekers free to travel into the rest of Europe



https://www.westmonster.com/greek-court ... of-europe/

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#411 Post by coffee » April 19th, 2018, 5:57 pm

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#412 Post by coffee » April 19th, 2018, 6:18 pm

BREXIT BLOCKING MPs defy Brexit with new plans to keep Britain in Customs Union – but voters wouldn’t back re-joining EU after we leave

Last night Lords inflicted a damning defeat on Theresa May by slapping on a change to her flagship Brexit legislation, and now MPs are set to push for a Customs Union too

By Natasha Clark

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6092832/m ... eu-brexit/

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#413 Post by Alan H » April 19th, 2018, 6:29 pm

coffee wrote:If you believe in your country then consider to follow these following twitter accounts.

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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#414 Post by coffee » April 19th, 2018, 7:41 pm

EU door now shut to Britain for good, Hollande says - Telegraph

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-brita ... KKBN1HQ1UU

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#415 Post by coffee » April 19th, 2018, 7:43 pm

EU door now shut to Britain for good, Hollande says - Telegraph

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-brita ... KKBN1HQ1UU

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#416 Post by animist » April 19th, 2018, 8:41 pm

Alan H wrote:
coffee wrote:If you believe in your country then consider to follow these following twitter accounts.

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Leave.EU

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coffee, well done, you actually uttered some words of your own. To answer them, here goes. No, i DO NOT BELIEVE IN MY COUNTRY - WHY THE HELL SHOULD I?

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#417 Post by animist » April 19th, 2018, 8:46 pm

coffee wrote:EU door now shut to Britain for good, Hollande says - Telegraph

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-brita ... KKBN1HQ1UU
you have already posted this. Did the door reopen? More important, what is the value of the opinion of some former French president? If he had said the opposite, I doubt that thiw would appear in the thread

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#418 Post by Nick » April 19th, 2018, 10:26 pm

animist wrote: No, i DO NOT BELIEVE IN MY COUNTRY - WHY THE HELL SHOULD I?
well, animist, have you considered the alternatives....? :)

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#419 Post by animist » April 19th, 2018, 10:39 pm

Nick wrote:
animist wrote: No, i DO NOT BELIEVE IN MY COUNTRY - WHY THE HELL SHOULD I?
well, animist, have you considered the alternatives....? :)
which are? Well, one is the humanistic belief in the general good rather than a narrowly conceived national good. But even if one is patriotic and believes only in the national good, it does not follow that one should in some way or other believe that the path that what one's country is following is the right one for it, especially if it is one not shared by the large majority of the country's elected representatives. These decent people have been morally blackmailed, by a foolish experiment in direct democracy, to pretend to agree to policies which in fact they believe are harmful. How can this good for the country? Does that answer you?

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#420 Post by Nick » April 20th, 2018, 10:32 am

animist wrote: No, i DO NOT BELIEVE IN MY COUNTRY - WHY THE HELL SHOULD I?
:laughter: It's rather funny how we can draw completely different inferences from a simple phrase! I was making the distinction between believing in your country and any other. I was looking for an alternative country. :) And "believe in" meaning something like worth supporting or contributing to. (I was attributing you capitals to thick thumbs, not shouting. Was I right to do so..?) So you may have a different answer if you take that perspective. I was also rather startled by an apparent assertion that no contribution to the society in which one lives had any merit, though, based on your response, I don't think that was your intention.

So, to your response:
Nick wrote: well, animist, have you considered the alternatives....? :)
which are? Well, one is the humanistic belief in the general good rather than a narrowly conceived national good.
So should we care rather more for the destruction of the economies of Greece and other EU nations than you have so far thought...?
But even if one is patriotic and believes only in the national good, it does not follow that one should in some way or other believe that the path that what one's country is following is the right one for it,
OK, but I took your assertion as an abandonment of all hope of changing it, through the democratic process, say. Not what you meant...? :)
especially if it is one not shared by the large majority of the country's elected representatives. These decent people have been morally blackmailed, by a foolish experiment in direct democracy, to pretend to agree to policies which in fact they believe are harmful. How can this good for the country?
This is not "belief in ones country", but belief in the policy being persued by any particular government- rather different, I'd say.
Does that answer you?
Not in the way I was expecting! :laughter:

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#421 Post by coffee » April 20th, 2018, 11:52 am

EU rejects May's Irish border proposals: Brexit News for Friday 20 April

https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... -20-april/

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MIGRANTS DEAL FEAR Theresa May may strike post-Brexit deal on EU immigration rights BEFORE report into impact of sky-high migration is ready

Brexit backers fear the Government is ready to make huge concessions on immigration controls to Brussels in a bid to get a bumper trade deal

By Steve Hawkes, Deputy Political Editor

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6087832/t ... -is-ready/

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